'Fans got penalized' by UW Marching Band's suspension
10/3/2008
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Instead of the UW Marching Band on Saturday, it was AC/DC and Black Sabbath.

Fans still cheered wildly at the University of Wisconsin football team's first Big Ten Conference home game. Blaring horns and bass drum beat, however, were conspicuously absent after band director Mike Leckrone suspended the band indefinitely Friday because of serious hazing allegations.

"The fans are the ones that got penalized," a disappointed Chris Laos said after the game, which 18th-ranked UW lost to 14th-ranked Ohio State 20-17.

Laos joined thousands of others who began streaming out of Camp Randall Stadium as soon as Badgers quarterback Allan Evridge tossed the game-ending interception, since the band's celebrated "Fifth Quarter" had been canceled.

Not getting to see that show, and the band's usually raucous half-time performance, was "awful," said Laos, a 1996 UW-Madison grad from Milwaukee.

Leckrone's decision caused the spotlight of the national media to temporarily turn from the football team to what is usually its supporting cast.

Officials continued to be tight-lipped about the allegations that led to the suspension, which Leckrone said were alcohol-related and involved "inappropriate sexual behavior."

An investigation will determine whether the alleged behavior violated band or University of Wisconsin System codes of conduct.

But Leckrone said Saturday he thinks only a small percentage of students were involved.

"I think there's a counterculture that really operates outside of the band structure that feels like this is the cool thing, this is what being part of the band is," he said. "We've stressed that's not the case at all."

Still, the latest incident is not the first time the band has been accused of hazing or lewd behavior. The culture of hazing has ebbed and flowed over the years, Leckrone said.

"You get 18- or 19-year-old kids who don't always use the best adult judgment," Leckrone said. "They think it's part of the organization. I think it's a hard thing to break down."

Current band members contacted by the Wisconsin State Journal wouldn't comment Saturday. Some said they'd been told by University officials not to comment — one called it "a gag order."

But several said they would have had nothing to reveal anyway. They said they knew nothing about what led to the suspension, suggesting the number of offenders could be relatively small.

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In the past, band alumni said, most hazing took the form of minor mischief.

Heather Watter, who played trumpet in the band from 2003 to '06, said she quit before her fourth year in part because she wanted to focus on her studies and in part because she said she didn't like the atmosphere of the band, which she said revolved heavily around alcohol.

"I heard of people my freshman year that seemed pretty quiet and shy who were getting completely drunk and doing things they wouldn't do otherwise," she said. "It seemed like they were forced to drink."

But she said she was never the subject of any serious hazing and said she avoided situations where she might feel uncomfortable.

"There is pressure to do that kind of stuff so maybe some people don't think they can escape that pressure," she said.

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'Fans got penalized' by UW Marching Band's suspension
(10/9/2008 12:40 AM)
T-bone Eric says:
I was a member of the University of Michigan band in the early 90s, and even then Wisconsin's band had a reputation. But back then it was for something different. The UW band (and when I say this, I know that it was probably just a few members) actually stole the door off of our band hall after a visit and took it back to Madison with them on the back of a bus. This happened a few years before I got there. While I was there, it was just known that the UW band was no longer invited to Ann Arbor when the Badgers came to town. This "ban" apparently was lifted sometime after that. This situation is different, but it could show what they call in athletics a "lack of institutional control". I think, especially with a probation just a couple years earlier, you had to pull the band from that game to avoid looking like it didn't matter. Nobody wants to be mentioned in the same breath as Stanford. I hope they find the few members who did this, kick them out of Madison, and get the rest of the band back onto the field. Saturdays in the fall mean everything to the marching bands. The University of Wisconsin, from what I've seen on TV, has a very fine band. Most of the Big 10 bands are very good. While the Big 10 may take a lot of crap nationally about the quality of it's football, there is no conference in the country that has near equal marching band talent out there than. I hope examples are made out of the individuals who put the University of Wisconsin through this public relations nightmare so the rest of the members can continue to perform w/o being looked down upon by the rest of the university community and the rest of the country.
(10/8/2008 11:41 AM)
Former band member says:
I have a variety of emotions on this issue, having been a 4-year UW Marching Band member, but watching this entire incident from afar. First, I mostly agree with Mike's temporary suspension of the band - although I think an immediate removal of the "accused" members, even though the investigation is not totally complete, and let the rest of the band perform, would have been more just to all involved.
During my time with the Band, for our away trips, we were allowed to sign up for a preferred bus and seat mates. It was well known to all which buses were "party" buses, and which were not. If you chose to be on the "frat house on wheels" bus, and I emphasize the word CHOOSE - then you pretty much knew what you were in for. I do not condone all of the things that went on in that bus, but then again, I was a 18-21 year old college student, and at the time, it was all in fun. We had a mixture of genders, majors and races - and though crude, it was nothing that I didn't see at your local frat/sorority house on a Saturday night. And, when we got to our desination, we were all able to act straight and professional. We NEVER did anything to disgrace the University when we put on the uniform. So, until all of the facts are in, I look at the whole issue with a little bit of cynicism. And as for Mike - the UW Band would not be the "best band in the land" if not for him!! Enough said!!
(10/6/2008 5:21 PM)
john smith says:
This is really sad. The band improves the overall environment at the games. Hopefully, they will quickly resolve these issues and get back to making Wisconsin look good!!
(10/6/2008 11:45 AM)
Asher says:
I was in the band for 5 years in the 90's and unfortunately was a participant and advocate of hazing, underage drinking, lewdness, and boorish behavior. I'm not surprised that these behaviors have continued. What I think is critical is that this does not define the band, nor my experience in the band.

The band is an incredible institution full of tradition and honor. I feel it's critical for people to acknowledge the unlawful and demoralizing behavior that has gone on for decades, but realize that the band can and must recover from this.

It's about time for a wake-up call and for people to stop defending offensive and illegal behavior. I did it and it was wrong. I was both a victim and perpetrator, and these things tarnish my memory of what was the best organization I was ever a part of.

Fun is not defined by level of intoxication.

The band cannot lose it's intensity, aggressiveness, or spirit. Purging out the crassness will not diminish anything.

I thought coming back to the alumni band this year would be different and that people would've matured, but there is still a core who believe it's cool to be perverse. We need to grow up. The band needs to grow a pair and say enough to things that stand to dismantle all that we sweated and worked for years to establish.

I love the band. I love Mike. And I love the people I knew from those amazing years. This is both a sad day and a pivotal crossroads for our band. I'm optimistic for its future.
(10/6/2008 10:48 AM)
MJG says:
It is tough on the students who practice so hard every week, and then "allegations" cause the whole band to miss a game. Nothing so drastic seems to have been done when the pom squad had issues a couple years back. The groups was allowed to perform at every home game, just a couple had to sit out one week as their punishment. No body knew any difference when one or two were not dancing. If anything, I hope what really happened comes out this time so everyone will know exactly what occurred, and which areas of the band are to blame. The comments being made about rampant sex, constant drinking and out of control hazing is just not true for the majority of band members.
(10/6/2008 6:29 AM)
caieva says:
Were any band members actually kicked out last time?
It sure seems like you wouldn't suspend the whole band unless the allegations were, well, of a felonious nature. Period.
(10/5/2008 4:35 PM)
MsG says:
The behavior of 95% of undergrads is OUT OF CONTROL. It is not just the band. Have you seen the student section? Forget that, 95% of the alumni also act as poorly. I live right by the stadium and must say that the environment that game day breeds is a horrible atmosphere of binge drinking and disrespect for women. Don't think so? Stay sober for ONE GAME and you'll see all the alums from age 22 to 70 acting like fools and wandering drunk urinating on people's houses and getting in fights. Yes, the band needs to be blamed but look at the larger picture of the game day atmosphere. It's not just the band people, it's all of you.
(10/5/2008 3:20 PM)
WisAlum84 says:
I salute you Michael Leckrone! You made a tough decision this weekend that proved, once again, that you are a class act. You make me proud to be a Badger because you stepped up for what is right. As a fellow educator, I agree with you that teaching respectful behavior is much more important than creating the true game atmosphere. Having said that, you were missed at Camp Randall last night, and I look forward to hearing your wonderful music again soon. I also want to say thank you to the many band members who DO understand the great responsibility and privilege it is to represent the best university in the land.
(10/5/2008 1:42 PM)
New Band Mom says:
My daughter has just become a band member (after dreaming of this since she was in grade school).Hazing or initiation?? Her initiation involved the senior members repeatedly telling her that at ANY time she felt uncomfortable or did not want to join in to say so. Some of the members did not join in... results??? NOTHING. They are all part of their section and welcome members of the UW band. It is a small number, as in any organization who will take advantage and push the limits. Should they be punished... ABSOLUTELY! Did Mike do the right thing by pulling the band... YES. Until they find the few (and I emphasis FEW) he had to show the seriousness of the misbehavior. Should Mike retire or be fired.... not on your life!! He has done more to shape young adults, both musically and personally! Have you ever seen these kids work? I dare any parent to say they can get their child to push themselves both mentally and physically to achieve a goal as Mike has. These are values they will carry with them the rest of their lives... they won't be quitters, they won't think everything in their life comes free. You need to work for it. What the band and Mike Leckrone need now is our support and the expectation that the "bad apples" will be weeded out and the band will maintain the tremendous tradition they have worked so hard to obtain.
(10/5/2008 1:40 PM)
Disgusted says:
The band incident is just a microcosm of the whole UW system and how this behavior has run amuck. The students learn to act like idiots on State Street and it carries over into every aspect of their student life.
(10/5/2008 12:18 PM)
T-bone babe says:
I have a few comments as a former member of another big ten band. Did every member of the UW band commit the questionable behaviors? No. But I am sure that the behaviors were rampant throughout the band. There is a reason that the band members in American Pie were represented the way that were. Marching bands tend to have their own songs, including alternate versions of each school song, and rituals that are laden with innuendos and sexual slurs. Should the entire band have been punished? I think it was the right call because the allegations were brought to the attention of the UW administration very late in the week. There was no way to know who all of the responsible parties were, and the only way to send a message to all those responsible was to the suspend the entire band until the investigation is complete, at which point those responsible can suffer further consequences. By suspending the entire band for at least one show, the band will know that this type of behavior is not acceptable. Those members who agree that this type of behavior is unacceptable will step up to the lead the band out of these troubled times. It is too bad that the fans had to miss out on the band during the game because marching bands are an important part of the college football experience. But if the fans support the decisions of the leadership they can confirm to the band members responsible for the bad behavior that these types of behaviors are not acceptable for adults.
(10/5/2008 10:33 AM)
sparky says:
I think it is society's fault. That, and Bush's fault.
(10/5/2008 10:26 AM)
Jonathan says:
You people talking about just the few individuals should have been kicked off... did you actually read the news reports and hear what Lackrone said at the press conference?

The investigation is going on. They don't exactly know yet who the specific individuals are. Leckrone said in the press conference they emphasize with the students acceptable behavior, and responsibility of the team. If I'm on the band and I see someone behaving inappropriately, as a responsible member of the team I need to do something about it. This is not just a group of individuals. It is a group of people representing the University. They group needs to be collectively responsible.

A suspension was the right thing to do, and sends the right message.
(10/5/2008 10:11 AM)
No More Jokes says:
The last probation was a joke, and everybody realized it. Nothing changed. It's about time someone stepped forward and demanded some responsibility from the band. Yes, they are a special part of the Badger tradition, which is why the suspension is so important! This was the right call, and it would not have been needed if something had been done before. Mike Lecrone has had a wonderful, respected career--but if he can't control his band, then he will eventually leave in disgrace.
(10/5/2008 10:08 AM)
Rob says:
Why is it that except for Stanford's band (which isn't even sanctioned by the University) Wisconsin's band is the only one in the nation that seems to be having such serious problems?....repeatedly! Time for a change in leadership I believe.
(10/5/2008 9:55 AM)
me says:
Where is the democratic justice....innocent until proven quilty? And why punish all 300 kids? As in any profession/organization, there will be people that abuse their power. The problem seems to be that as a society we have let our children down. We have a president that made oral sex a household word, and yet continued as a leader in our nation. We have a famous football player commit murder, and remain out of jail(until maybe now). The university allowed a football player to play at home games after beating up his girlfriend, which didn't make the national news to embarrass the Wisconsin football team. What ultimately happens, is that the University has embarrased and degraded Mike and every band member along with every family that has connections with the band. The fans were let down as well. Obviously Bret wasn't too upset per his comment about the band's absence last night. Maybe a bit of support for the kids that bust their butts to entertain the fans and rock the stadium and support his team, win or lose would have been more appropriate. Too bad they lost, maybe they missed that extra man on the field.
(10/5/2008 9:49 AM)
Lou says:
Leckrone did the right thing - peer pressure from the rule-abiding band members on the renegades who created the problem is the best way to resolve the behavior problem and restore the UW Marching Band to its normally high standards.
(10/5/2008 9:02 AM)
JR says:
Do I think suspending the whole marching band was a good decision? Not really, but if they weren't sure exactly who all was involved, it makes sense. I, for one, applaud every coach and director who makes the decision to penalize students who screw up. Teachers and coaches should be here to turn out quality young adults, not just to turn out the best marching band or team. Young adults today need to realize that there are behaviors that are unacceptable, and that there will be actions taken to correct behaviors. Ideally, with consistent reinforcement of the rules, students will figure out the boundaries.
(10/5/2008 8:53 AM)
SR says:
"You get 18- or 19-year-old kids who don't always use the best adult judgment," Leckrone said.

"18- 19-year old kids..." are hardly the instigators and are FAR more likely the victims. It's pretty clear that Leckrone's attitude is a huge part of the problem, not the solution.

Leckrone should have been fired last time. He should resign this time.
(10/5/2008 8:05 AM)
KDN says:
Bring in the Blue Band for next weeks game... a Big Ten Game should have all the atmosphere to complete the total experiance!
(10/5/2008 6:42 AM)
zamman says:
It was the right call.
(10/5/2008 4:57 AM)
brenner says:
So, how do you hold a badger in place for long enough time to scetch his genitals anyway? That can be sort of dangerous.. don't they bite?
(10/5/2008 1:14 AM)
MP says:
I'd like to know whose decision it was to take the Band on the road to Michigan, again? One of the reason's they were on probation was for what happened 2 years ago on the way home from the Michigan game? Did they really think it would be any different this time?
(10/5/2008 12:14 AM)
Bob Barker says:
Fire Leckrone. how dare he take the band away. THEN after first saying in 06 that if it happens again he would retire. THEN RETIRE, we don't need a band director that is that self-absorded to take the band away for a big game. and for all you dummys out there realize that this isn't someone getting raped, this is at most someone putting up facebook photos with a penis marked on someones head. now leckrones saying hes a mentor, nah he just wants his power. he has no commitment in this university if he would sabbotage wisconsin being able to repersent ourselves by putting the entire stadium in disarray just 24 hours before the game. he tells us a week before, NO ONE NEEDS THE BAND THEN. the pa would have gotten enough clips to keep us on track. it was a dead, disorganized stadium, which affected everyone, including the player. i'm out of steam. JUST FIRE HIM. DO IT BARRY!!
(10/5/2008 12:12 AM)
MN. Gopher Fan says:
Hill's A Joke..... YOU MY FRIEND ARE A BUTT HEAD. Sorry to be so Junior High, but I thought it was applicable.
(10/5/2008 12:02 AM)
Hill's a Joke says:
UW is a joke of a team this year. I'm embarrassed to have have graduated from this university, not only have the academics slipped hardcore, the athletics have been WORSE! I can't wait to get a job out of state and forget I came here where the government hates the public university and the athletic department (who controls MILLIONS in funding) can't run a program worth a damn. I'll be lucky to get another job before my diploma is worth less than the crappy paper it was printed on.

Good luck going 5-7, every team has down years, WI just likes to get on its knees and blow it every chance it has. I'll cheer again when you want to really play.

BTW, c'mon band! How did you get caught!!!!!
(10/4/2008 11:57 PM)
Onceabadger says:
I applaud you Mr. Leckrone!

Having shared music school halls with the UW Marching band for many years and directly seeing how noisy and disruptive to real academics, as well as being extremely rude and inconsiderate of other students, faculty, and the school this group of students was at all times, and yet getting more backing and budget than the rest of the entire music department combined because of their association with the corporate owned football (as well as other UW athletics) team...I say it is about time some attention was paid to this. Perhaps this is the time to teach consideration of the noise made in the halls outside of practice rooms when they go to their equipment lockers and behave like brazen drunk hockey players and poor representatives of the great University of Wisconsin in front of many international students who come to the University to study music. Even the state high schoolers are better behaved when they are on campus. Get a clue marching band members and grow up!
(10/4/2008 10:20 PM)
tallrobert says:
This afternoon I overheard a woman, dressed in her red and whites, blaming this all on "a bunch of little sluts who got they deserved", then complained how this ruined her whole game.
Are all Wisconsin fans like this??
The problem with the band itself seems to stem from the celebrity status Mike Leckrone has allowed to have placed upon himself. The specials I've seen on Public Television seem more about him than they are the Band tradition at the University.
Perhaps it is time for a new broom to sweep the place clean??
(10/4/2008 9:54 PM)
Kristen says:
I agree, they shouldn't punish the whole band, BUT they found out about this at 3:45 on Friday afternoon & probably needed to make the decision by the end of the school day. That didn't leave them a whole lot of time to make a decision. I can see why they would just hastily make a judgement call that they don't play tonight just until they can get some answers and penalize the guilty parties.
(10/4/2008 9:04 PM)
Sparty81 says:
Just tuned in to the game and was wondering what happened to the band. I like that polka thing they do after they score although not so much when they score against Michigan State. As a MSU grad I feel for the Alums as the band is so much a part of the memories one has of being a student at the games. Must have been pretty bad. You pesky Badgers need to behave yourselves, ya hear?
(10/4/2008 8:28 PM)
Sandi says:
WOW! I just bought tickets to the Badger/Penn State game. My husband is a Nitany Lion Alum. I however, have never been to a Badger game. We were looking forward to the whole game experience. I am a Badger fan and now my first experience at a game is going to be bitter sweet. Please by all means punish those who cannot behave appropiately, but let the rest of the band play. The innocent work just as hard as the Footbal players and we all know that the University would never suspend the entire team for a few players indiscretions. These are just my personal feelings and I'm sure many people will disagree with them. With that said, I am looking forward to rubbing my husbands nose in it next week when the Badgers kick the Nitany Lions backsides. See ya at the game!
(10/4/2008 8:16 PM)
Madtown says:
Follow the rules or lose the right to play simple as that! Stunts like this shouldn't be tolerated at any level. These are supposed to be young adults not High Schoolers. Good going Mike a lot of people support you let the people that are whining whine.
(10/4/2008 8:09 PM)
JJ says:
Just another example of The Man bringing us down
(10/4/2008 8:07 PM)
Rich Williams says:
It would appear to me that UW has adopted the Al Gore concept. The band is selling "bad behavior" credits to the football team. This will allow athletes to continue crude behavior while at the same time maintaining the revenue flow to the athletic department and the school.
(10/4/2008 7:32 PM)
Lynn says:
When a couple of football players get arrested for criminal activity, does the whole football team get suspended? Oh . . . I forgot . . . football players aren't like that.
(10/4/2008 6:37 PM)
Old Trombone says:
I am beginning to wonder if perhaps this isn't some reverse psychology on the part of Mike Leckrone. Perhaps he is punishing the UW administration just as much as he is punishing the band. You don't ever read stories about the merits of the band, of how hard the majority of its members work, or of the all the time and energy each student puts in to help support the University. No, you mostly just hear the bad. So maybe, just maybe, this is Mike's way of showing UW how truly important the band really is...and what a better way than taking them away from such an important game. You don't know what you have until you lose is. That being said, I disagree with the full suspension, until, of course, I see every football player suspended for their teammates faults and errors.
(10/4/2008 6:32 PM)
Badgers 1- says:
Poor decision, period. Hurting the football team, fans, alumni, and putting attention on himself and away from the game itself. I am embarassed.
(10/4/2008 6:25 PM)
Jayers Sure says:
I am not sure susbending them for this Nationally televised game makes sense. Do you due diligence and suspend as necessary after your work is done.
It can't be everybody...
(10/4/2008 6:19 PM)
band mom says:
To RK and other small minds: No it is NOT the entire band. I have a student in the band who is a serious musician, does not drink alcohol, treats others with respect, and hangs out with band members with the same morals and values. Please do not assume EVERY band member is a wild party animal!
(10/4/2008 6:09 PM)
GJ says:
Those of you saying this is over-kill. Do you have enough facts on how many were involved? Do you have quotes from the director, whether or not he made it very clear this would happen if the stupid behaviour did not stop? Are you SURE it was only a few, there is no where in the story that it says it is a few. Maybe this should have been done a long time ago. College or not, when you choose to be a part of an organization that represents any institution, you have a higher bar, a greater trust to expemlify. This is the first move that actually shows leadership.
(10/4/2008 4:31 PM)
RK says:
The problem is the whole band, not just a few bad apples. Every year horrid things happen in Leckrone's presence at the Band Banquet. This has been true since I worked in Catering at the Memorial Union in the 1980s. Don't believe that it is just a few people. This organization's culture has been a combination of team spirit out of control and pathetic juvenile behavior for years and Leckrone knows it.
(10/4/2008 4:27 PM)
iBucky says:
This is a joke...I was in the band, and I can't see how it has come to this. Put very simple, kick the offenders out of the UW period, don't punish the entire band. That will correct it once and for all. Mike Should NOT have let it come to this. It is an embarrassment for the entire UW on such an important night in Camp Randall. Mike would always say when you put that uniform on, you represent the entire univeristy! And back when I was in band we didn't take that lightly. Of course that is when, we never won a game and people came for the band. I hate to say this almost can't believe I am saying this, but Mike if you can't handle this task step down! Someone needs to put the pride and honor back into being a part of "the best band in the land".. Get rid of these losers. A very sad alumni.
(10/4/2008 4:25 PM)
Badger fan says:
Obviously Phyl has never been to a game otherwise he would have known they do not sell beer at camp randall. Keep your raincoat in the closet buddy
(10/4/2008 4:24 PM)
Zeb says:
I cannot believe they are suspending the entire band based on the actions of a few members. I realize they want to "send a message", blah blah blah, but look at it this way: If it were members of the football team that were accused of wrongdoing, would they suspend the entire team and forfeit the game? Heck no! They would suspend those members of the team who were involved, and let the others play the game. They should do the same thing with the band.
(10/4/2008 4:13 PM)
Greta L. Flath says:
This is overkill at its absolute worst. The band is 300 adults-each supposedly responsible for his or her own behavior.Conduct your investigation, punish the offenders and get one with it already. Mike Leckrone is an awesome Band DIrector but he cannot be expected to "babysit" the few who apparently lack manners, self control or the ability to distinguish right from wrong.
Those being punished the most are the fans who pay dearly for the "game experience" which will certainly be lacking tonight. Further, all of the innocent members of the band who had no part in whatever went on do NOT deserve this. But most of all the decision is embarrassing the UW in front of the whole country on national television tonight in what is possibly one of the most important Big Ten games of the year. The offending students need to get thier act togehter but so should the administration of the UW who seems to have mastered the art of overkill.
(10/4/2008 3:56 PM)
SteffieB says:
Mike, as an alum, I thank you for taking a stand! The Badger band does not deserve to have its reputation tarnished, and I hope they will return very soon because they are a very important part of the sports culture in Wisconsin. But it's about time that people take some responsibility for their actions. Please! Can we act like adults?
(10/4/2008 3:34 PM)
LOOKING IN says:
I'm sure Mike had ample cause to do what he did because of the pressure from above. However, some of the reasons for the earlier probation had to do with ...making some kids run tasks and or filling up beer cups for someone else...which is about a 1 on a 100 scale.

The most recent allegations were something about ...making someone draw porno' pictures and somebody making someone do something with a sex toy(s). If you believe that a 18+ year old kid could be made to do these things by another kid in the band by threat of force....you need to get into the real world. Many people, particularly women enter into these 'dumb stunts' knowing full well what that they are going to blow the whistle and gain their 15 minutes. They are willing participants and then do all the crying after with "I didn't know the Gun was Loaded" jazz!

If the administration wants to go so overboard penalizing the 300 or so band members for just a few students, maybe the entire band ought to tell U.W. thanks but no thanks and quit. Let the loonie lefties take the heat from the people who buy tickets and spend their money.

(10/4/2008 3:25 PM)
Matt says:
Haha band.
(10/4/2008 2:25 PM)
Phyl says:
Good good ! It is time that we make things better so we do not have to put up with with spoiled brats thinking that sex is everything. Mike you have done the right thing and when the athletic department does more about the the drinking at the games Too bad people need to wear raincoats because of spilled beer . I would like very much to go to games but is it worth it No I will spend my money elsewhere.
(10/4/2008 2:06 PM)
PD says:
"That is BS. This is Leckrone! He has made the band the brilliant band we all know and love. If you are an Alumni, you should know that. This is 300 adults, with only a few making problems. It is ridiculous to think you can find someone that can constantly watch over everyone at all times. Try to be somewhat realistic. Go Badgers!"

Ok - if it is a "few making problems", then why should the entire 300 members of the band be suspended from playing at tonight's game? Why should the paying fans be deprived of a core component to the full game day experience? Like another poster has said, this band has been out of control for years and you state that Leckrone shouldn't be held accountable for this mess. That is BS!
(10/4/2008 1:55 PM)
Tina says:
Good for Mike Leckrone! Having had students in the
band over the last few years, I know the problems are rampant, and I also know that it's NOT everybody. But he really needed to take a stand -- though today's game just won't be the same!
(10/4/2008 1:51 PM)
MED says:
"Good. The band has appeared to be out of control for years..and that is just what the media reports on..imagine what the truth really is! Being part of something that is important comes with responsibility and the ability to act right. That seems to have been lost on the UW Band..maybe this will let them think a bit about that." - Bob's statement is true that the band has been out of control for years. PD really nailed it by stating that Leckrone and his staff has failed to "police" the actions of the band and now the fans have to pay for it. The UW and its Alumni ultimately face the shame of this situation. Yes, dismiss those band members who participated in this mess, but don't stop before holding accountable the band director and his staff for not having control of their student/band members.
(10/4/2008 1:35 PM)
NB says:
"No, Mr. Leckrone, you are hurting the fans more than you are hurting yourself or the band. Time to step down, my friend, and get a Director and staff that can properly "police" the actions of the band members."

That is BS. This is Leckrone! He has made the band the brilliant band we all know and love. If you are an Alumni, you should know that. This is 300 adults, with only a few making problems. It is ridiculous to think you can find someone that can constantly watch over everyone at all times. Try to be somewhat realistic. Go Badgers!
(10/4/2008 1:29 PM)
sunshine says:
Hey Vince! Why not bus in the OSU band?
(10/4/2008 1:13 PM)
Stotonwiz says:
Hey PD, the band members are all college students and know the behavior rules. Place the blame on those breaking the rules - the band members. Yes, it is time to solve the problem and it will be most effectively accomplished by dismissing the offending band members from UW.
(10/4/2008 1:03 PM)
KH says:
There are a lot of things that are not being told to the public. The band was placed on probation in 2006 due to allegations against a band assistant and alleged actions from band members roughly 6 years before. Chancellor Wiley was hearing of these things for the first time, and deciding to make a statement to the current band members, he enforced the "probation." As far as this current suspension, I think it's important to consider what Leckrone said - "a few individuals." There are over 300 kids in the band and this recent incident probably includes a handful - meaning over 295 of them have no idea what they are being penalized for. And finally, it isn't fair to blame Mike Leckrone. He is an amazing role model, holds every band member to extremely high standards, and cannot be expected to babysit them on the weekends, the other 4-5 buses that he isn't riding during travel, or other get-togethers that may have elicited this disturbing behavior. It'll definitely be different not hearing the band tonight at the game. Go Badgers!
(10/4/2008 12:49 PM)
bob says:
Good. The band has appeared to be out of control for years..and that is just what the media reports on..imagine what the truth really is! Being part of something that is important comes with responsibility and the ability to act right. That seems to have been lost on the UW Band..maybe this will let them think a bit about that.
(10/4/2008 12:40 PM)
Candace Rees says:
I think the entire student section should be given kazoos to replace the band. just a thought
(10/4/2008 12:38 PM)
PD says:
"You don't have any idea how hard it was," he said. "It's like I can remember my father saying, 'This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you.' They know how important this is to me." - No, Mr. Leckrone, you are hurting the fans more than you are hurting yourself or the band. Time to step down, my friend, and get a Director and staff that can properly "police" the actions of the band members. This whole situation is bringing great shame to the University and its Alumni. Time to solve the problem by starting at the top...
(10/4/2008 12:34 PM)
WJB says:
Have not heard anything about this. Badgers have enough trouble right now, and lack of the band will make the game against Ohio State even tougher. The talking heads on GameDay pick Ohio State. No one is sure how Badgers will react after blowing the game against Michigan last week.
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